Response to the "Official statement concerning candidates ..."

As written in Martins post, we did not decide on that, but the current UAB did. So nobody has been excluded for the elections by the AS Team.

It is not and never has been my personal goal to prevent rubiohiguey2000 from joining the UAB. It's candidates themselves and the players deciding what users will be elected to the UAB and not my goal to interfere with that.

As of now, the UAB hasn't decided yet on the pending cases, so there's no outcome that could be reported yet.

My personal goal is to fight cheating, no matter what username or position someone may have.

Oh, do come on. From martin's official statement, half of which is about how Rubio is a cheater (an accusation he cannot respond to in that thread because it is locked):

"We don't necessarily share this outcome, but we obviously will respect it."

If you respected the outcome you would have left it up to players to decide whether they wish Rubio for them to represent them, rather than weigh in on the matter yourselves.

And you personally have so many hats on in this discussion it's getting a bit ridiculous. You certainly should not have posted at all in this thread. You are the person organising this poll, you should not comment on an individual's candidacy, nor what they have or haven't submitted to the UAB. 

Unless, of course, you also speak for the UAB - another hat?

Playing devils advocate here…

I don’t know whether there is or is not a specific campaign against George by the staff, and I have seen some evidence that there might be. The fact is that the staff left the decision on this to the UAB. Yes Martin posted that they didn’t necessarily agree with the decision of the UAB, and I don’t have any problem with that statement. The UABs decision was upheld and respected. I believe this was fair, as this is a decision to be made by the users. If new rules are posted that change the requirements for running for the UAB, then I will consider that rule, and will speak for it, or against it at that time. I respect the fact that George decided on his own to step down. We have to remember that we are all human, and as such we are fallible. Even the staff can make mistakes, so can I, and so can you. Let’s try to remember that. Dragging each other through the mud accomplishes nothing except further hurt feelings.

Did George do anything wrong? It looks like he might have, but that is a decision to be made by the current UAB. Let’s let them make that decision. Has the Staff done anything wrong? Perhaps, but let us hope, that they are bigger people than to carry on with anything like that.

I kept quiet for a while as I don't want to make the team (or, specific, Spezialist and martin) more angry at me. This alone shows how unfair I see this whole campaign against my person. However, after martin made his public statement, clearly calling my name, I think I have to state some of my thoughts and aces, too.

About my case:

I am accused of

"- Acquiring airline Western Airlink on April 12, while potential stock market manipulation happening in your favor."

I asked about specific rule violation and got this answer:

"The airline is Western Airlink and you supposedly knew about the manipulation as you were the only one profiting from it by placing the bid to acquire named airline. That's why we need your statement for handling this cheating investigation.

Game rules for AirlineSim can be found here: http://en.airlinesim.aero/wiki/index.php/Tutorial/1.5/general/Game_Rules"
 
Both messages to me were sent by Spezialist. He did not introduce himself as a team member or at all, I had to figure out on my own who he is. I still don't know if he is an employee of simulogics GmbH, tough. He also seems to lead the investigation. After I heard I'm not the only person accused I of course checked with the other person involved who is way better connected to AirlineSim community than I am as a new player.
 
 
Fact is: I coincidentially bid inside of AirlineSim Interface without any 3rd party tools and inside the allowed limits for a stock. I did this the same way Spezialist bid on this stock. And I did this the same way others have bid on this stock.
 
With this bid the airline got into my hands. It could also have gotten (again) into the hands of Spezialist. Or of somebody else. An airline that Spezialist had gained control over a few hours earlier with another transaction. An airline Spezialist had shown massive interest in. The same airline that gives his one huge competitor in the US market a huge advantage: Access to the whole Mexican market of the Idlewild server.
 
1) Not only did I not manipulate stocks as this is _impossible_ with a single purchase order, I also did nothing else that is forbidden. 
2) What I actually did was taking the 10/10 price Spezialist thought he had achieved out of his hands. I did this coincidentially and within the allowed limits of the game.
3) What this means right now is rubiohiguey2000 and lots of other airlines on Idlewild have Interlinings with my airline Aero Austral, but not JB Airlines, the airline of Spezialist. It must be noted Spezialist never asked for an Interlining - of course he knew it's way cheaper for him if he can get the airline in his hands with his admin rights usage.
4) Spezialist currently has shares in Western Airlink as well as Aero Austral.
5) If were to be found guilty in this witch hunt Spezialist will be the biggest shareholder of Aero Austral. He then can sell the airline to someone who does only interline with him and his connected people or simply delete it and serve the Mexican market himself with his US Airline, a paid Mexican holding, or with proxies there.
 
 
The team itself (Spezialist himself in this thread!) stating the rules are very unclear, dubious, found on different places like old forum threads but also the fact there seems to be no coherent decision making leaves me speechless how they try to go after me. The statement from martin in this forum about an investigation before the election clearly has the goal to make people not vote for me for UAB - not only because who is investigated must be guilty in the eyes of many voters, but also because a vote on my person would be a wasted vote if I've been found guilty in this charade. I don't think this has to do with the fact I'm female as some stated but more with the personal interest of Spezialist in destroying rubiohiguey2000 as a person and as a player, freeing up space for him in the US. It then comes in handy for him as he thinks I'm deeply connected with rubiohiguey2000, so he can get rid of an alleged ally and take over the Mexican market in one huge step with no personal risk for him or his airline at all.
 
 
These facts everybody can check themself.
=> Server Idlewild:
JB Airlines (Spezialist)
Western Airlink (one of my companies, Spezialist holds shares)
Aero Austral (besides the fact to destroy rubiohiguey2000 the main reason for this witch hunt; Spezialist holds nearly 30% of the shares of it and hat control during the time frame the airline was fought over and I made my single bid)
Central Airways (rubiohiguey2000's airline that is threatening JB Airlines everywhere)
 
In short: 
If I were to be found guilty for doing a single purchase order click inside the game interface, AS team member Specialist, the guy who leads the investigation against me gets unlimited access to the Mexican market on his main gaming server that is totally inaccessible for him right now. An airline he already had under his control for several hours DURING the general time frame my _one_ purchase order was placed.

Syrianna  as I'm a fair person I went to the other thread to see your statement but all tha you say there falls in lies in the right time rubio gave you more than 800mi in a game strategy to transfer money between 2 holdings without that you would never have the money, and why rubio needed you? he need another player holding so he could interline with.

So if speazialist wanted to buy to himself the airline soon he couldn’t interline with it if he doesn’t have traffic rights? so you are saying that he would do exactly the same thing rubio did with you, because if I recall you never had the money in your mexican holding and rubio gave it to you with a sub inside a sub with a hole package of money inside it…

So all seems like the guilty you are trying to put in the team member is the moves that you 2 did

for the other players that didn't see this on the other thread here it goes:

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I don't see any terms and conditions that I have violated.

 

I again invite you to point them out in detail to me.

 

Actually Spezialist does not accuse me of taking control of Aero Austral, I'm accused of _stock manipulation_. This can't be as I have just placed a single order. You can't manipulate stocks like this, especially not if your bid goes through.#

 

Also there is no window where you can see who offers and who sells stocks as far as I know.

 

 

It may or may not go against your morale feeling I got control over Aero Austral. To be honest if I would run such a game I would make a rule against such a thing and, surprise, there was a rule introduced _weeks after_ I got the company. Neither your nor my opinion however does change the fact I did nothing violating the terms and conditions of simulogics GmbH, therefor I am innocent, that means this witch hunt must end.

Oh, do come on. From martin's official statement, half of which is about how Rubio is a cheater (an accusation he cannot respond to in that thread because it is locked):

"We don't necessarily share this outcome, but we obviously will respect it."

If you respected the outcome you would have left it up to players to decide whether they wish Rubio for them to represent them, rather than weigh in on the matter yourselves.

And you personally have so many hats on in this discussion it's getting a bit ridiculous. You certainly should not have posted at all in this thread. You are the person organising this poll, you should not comment on an individual's candidacy, nor what they have or haven't submitted to the UAB. 

Unless, of course, you also speak for the UAB - another hat?

Interesting... you are asking for neutral behaviour of the team and another team member (Matth) likes all posts against Spezialist...

And all these assumptions come from George's nice written pdf which he is sending out.

Have you also seen the other side? The arguments of AS team? Or are you judging based only on what you know from George?

Neither JonaL nor you, TravellingSalesman, are involved in that case - for what I can see now. So why don't you just step back and let the right people who are in charge for this discuss / argue.

Are you in need to play this kind of game as followers of George?

It would have been better to decide on this stupid case before elections started today. I wished that there would be a strong person to stop this now before the community falls apart completely.

@ highscore

I don't see matth having shares in Western Airlink and/or Aero Austral. I don't see how he had control of Aero Austral during crucial time. I don't see how matth is fighting a personal war against somebody. I don't see matth making false claims. I don't see matth writing messages to me about investigations. I don't even see matth running a huge US airline on Idlewild that has no access to Mexico and would profit from this campaign against me.

However, I do know we both have an interlining agreement. If I were connected to rubiohiguey2000 as some believe in here the number of US interlinings Aero Austral would have would be very straightforward. Just to make this clear: I am a person myself and I do not care about all this kindergarten politics. I just want to play the game and not be involved in this kind of false accusations against my person. Instead of this I have to defend myself in front of some random strangers on the internet (!!!) because there is some personal unsubstantial witch hunt ongoing as well as this posting martin made in the UAB forums. 

I don't see any terms and conditions that I have violated.

 

I again invite you to point them out in detail to me.

 

Actually Spezialist does not accuse me of taking control of Aero Austral, I'm accused of _stock manipulation_. This can't be as I have just placed a single order. You can't manipulate stocks like this, especially not if your bid goes through.#

 

Also there is no window where you can see who offers and who sells stocks as far as I know.

 

 

It may or may not go against your morale feeling I got control over Aero Austral. To be honest if I would run such a game I would make a rule against such a thing and, surprise, there was a rule introduced _weeks after_ I got the company. Neither your nor my opinion however does change the fact I did nothing violating the terms and conditions of simulogics GmbH, therefor I am innocent, that means this witch hunt must end.

Syrianna so you admit that you act knowing before hand that western had a sub on it with lots of money that you should buy Aero with the money?

Even if that wasn’t against the rules, all yours statements fall apart as you 2 say that you 2 didn’t know each other, but yes you 2 planned before hand how to do and to have the means to buy this airline because you did opened a new holding in mexico that haven’t do anything besides buying western that had 800mi inside it hidden on sub?

Come on do you really believe that anyone can't see what hapenned?

Please we are players not dumbs...

@ bcavalini

I don't know what you or "anybody" can or can not see.

What I can see is you have again not pointed out the specific terms and condition I may or may not have violated.

I have not spoken to rubiohiguey2000 to "plan" anything, even this has nothing to do with the case.

Again, the accusation against me is stock manipulation. This is, as any other accused rule violation as of the law of 12th April 2016 would be, nonsense. I am innocent. I have not violated terms and conditions.

Interesting... you are asking for neutral behaviour of the team and another team member (Matth) likes all posts against Spezialist...

And all these assumptions come from George's nice written pdf which he is sending out.

Have you also seen the other side? The arguments of AS team? Or are you judging based only on what you know from George?

Neither JonaL nor you, TravellingSalesman, are involved in that case - for what I can see now. So why don't you just step back and let the right people who are in charge for this discuss / argue.

Are you in need to play this kind of game as followers of George?

It would have been better to decide on this stupid case before elections started today. I wished that there would be a strong person to stop this now before the community falls apart completely.

Highscore I respect you, and I see you are a straight guy, now please tell I'm not the only one that seen the plot to give syrianna money so he can control the mexican airline?

I don't see matth having shares in Western Airlink and/or Aero Austral. I don't see how he had control of Aero Austral during crucial time. I don't see how matth is fighting a personal war against somebody. I don't see matth making false claims. I don't see matth writing messages to me about investigations. I don't even see matth running a huge US airline on Idlewild that has no access to Mexico and would profit from this campaign against me.

However, I do know we both have an interlining agreement. If I were connected to rubiohiguey2000 as some believe in here the number of US interlinings Aero Austral would have would be very straightforward. Just to make this clear: I am a person myself and I do not care about all this kindergarten politics. I just want to play the game and not be involved in this kind of false accusations against my person. Instead of this I have to defend myself in front of some random strangers on the internet (!!!) because there is some personal unsubstantial witch hunt ongoing as well as this posting martin made in the UAB forums. 

I have not commented on your post, Syriana, but on TravellingSalesman.

I don't know what you or "anybody" can or can not see.

What I can see is you have again not pointed out the specific terms and condition I may or may not have violated.

I have not spoken to rubiohiguey2000 to "plan" anything, even this has nothing to do with the case.

Again, the accusation against me is stock manipulation

Come on you and rubio didn't talk about western? comee onnn how you start a holding without anything and suddenly you buy a airline that looked like it haven't nothing alson, and in a country you don't even have the traffic rights and than BAAM this little airline has sub in monterrey that has more than 800mi in it.

I’m not talking about you accusation I’m talking about your lies that you insist say that you and rubio didn’t planed your buy of western sou you could buy aero? come on rubio found A sub and inside it put another sub with 800mi and than sell it to you for only 5mi? because he forgot the 800mi in that sub? or because he made it planed with you with only one pourpose buy aero…como onnnn

@ highscore

It's an open discussion and as matth liked some of my posts I think I have to point that out. I felt your accusation of being a "George follower" also is directed to me. I tried to point out this is not true with the example I brought into. :)

I don't know what you or "anybody" can or can not see.

What I can see is you have again not pointed out the specific terms and condition I may or may not have violated.

I have not spoken to rubiohiguey2000 to "plan" anything, even this has nothing to do with the case.

Again, the accusation against me is stock manipulation

In your opinion, why would rubiohiguey2000 sell a 800mio AS$ package for 5$, knowing that his archrival might as well get it.

Highscore I respect you, and I see you are a straight guy, now please tell I'm not the only one that seen the plot to give syrianna money so he can control the mexican airline?

I am neutral as this is a case which is discussed in UAB. This gremium is the place where this case (and others) are discussed and hopefully the members will find solutions how to avoid cases like this in the future.

This forum is not the right place to accuse and discuss these cases. That's my opinion.

@ highscore

It's an open discussion and as matth liked some of my posts I think I have to point that out. I felt your accusation of being a "George follower" also is directed to me. I tried to point out this is not true with the example I brought into. :)

Your perception - I have got another one. But it was not directed to you indeed but to the other participants in this thread.

@ bcavalini

Correct, rubiohiguey2000 and I have not planned anything. Even if you don't believe this. I can't of course proove anything that has not happened, I just can state how it is and was. And I can state that with the full power of my voice as I know this is the truth and nothing can destroy this truth!

I also did not lie. I ask you very friendly to step back with your accusations and I point out Rule 1 of the forums netiquette to you. You must not believe me, this is ok, but stop saying things that are not true unless you can proove their truth, what you say really hurts me and your nonsense accusations make me very uncomfortable.

If you have nothing to say about the case, as you stated in your post, maybe you simply want to leave me alone before you say even more false things that hurt me totally unnecessarily even more!

@ sebx

This is not part of the accusation against my person by the team. Obviously I can't answer you what people I barely know think or why they act like they do. I can however state none of these actions were against the rules. I really carefully made myself very aware with the terms and conditions of simulogics GmbH since I received this accusation PM.

As was pointed out by Syriana, this case is not about transfer of a company. That was made clear. So please do not try to hijack a specific UAB case into something the UAB case is not about. I repeat, the transfer was tolerated because there was not a specific rule to it. This case is about something else. If I am wrong please may the prosecutor correct me.

The accusation is about a manipulation of a stock market. (like if I had done an abraka dabra and stock market suddenly went into the 7th dimension and came back reincarnated in a different form)

I transmitted information to friendly players to spread the word about a possible sale. Having said that, no specific player was "chosen" or "pre-selected".This information was provided in my statement to UAB.

@bcavalini - please stop hijacking the case into a dimension where it is not - this case is not about the transfer of one company to another player. It is about a technicality involved during that transfer, a supposed "market manipulation". So again, please stop the hijack.

So just explain me one thing, why did you bought a rubio sub in a country that you don't have legal traffic rights? 

after that

explain to me how you bought aero with a holding that had only 10 mi in a 800mi business?

Rubio you never talked with syrianna about her opening a holding in mexico so you could transfer her money so her can buy an mexican airline? if you are a man tell me the truth about it..