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#1 Eireann

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Posted 12.08.2017 - 17:04

I would really love it if these were introduced into the game for a regional airline. 

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Variant 250[84] 350i[85]/350ER[86] Crew 1-2 Capacity 10 11 Length 43 ft 10 in / 13.36 m 46 ft 8 in / 14.22 m Span 57 ft 11 in / 17.65 m Height 14 ft 10 in / 4.52 m 14 ft 4 in / 4.37 m Cabin L × W × H 16'8" × 4'6" × 4'9"
5.08 × 1.37 × 1.45 m 19'6" × 4'6" × 4'9"
5.94 × 1.37 × 1.45 m Weights MTOW 13,420 lb / 6,087 kg 15,000 lb / 6,804 kg
ER: 16,500 lb / 7,484 kg OEW[a] 8,830 lb / 4,005 kg 9,955 lb / 4,516 kg
ER: 9,455 lb / 4,289 kg[b] Useful load 4,670 lb / 2,118 kg 5,145 lb / 2,334 kg
ER: 7,145 lb / 3,241 kg Engines Engine type (2×) PWC PT6A-52 PWC PT6A-60A Power or Thrust 850 shp / 625 kW 1,050 shp / 783 kW Performance Maximum Cruise 310 kt / 574 km/h 312 kt / 578 km/h
ER: 303 kt / 561 km/h Ferry Range 1,720 nm / 3,185 km 1,806 nm / 3,345 km
ER: 2,670 nm / 4,945 km Takeoff 2,111 ft / 643 m[c] 350i: 3,300 ft / 1,006 m Ceiling 35,000 ft / 10,668 m

 

 



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Posted 12.08.2017 - 17:38

I am not sure that King Airs are operated on regular commercial scheduled service. Even if we add them probably nobody will use them. Personally I don't see a need for anything smaller than a CRJ. 


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Posted 12.08.2017 - 17:38

Considering we have the PC-12 it would seem like a good idea, however, we need (among other things) proof that it is used in scheduled airline service. Charters don't count.

Edited by Tal0n, 12.08.2017 - 17:39.

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Posted 14.08.2017 - 13:29

I agree to get the King Air models into the game. The only thing is that the AC never even getting close to FL350. It's anything between FL180-280 in order to prevent drag... (but i guess it's not important for the game).

In real world the cost (dry lease for B200) will be around 800 USD/hour. with a max. seating of 10 it could be interesting for small Airports...

 

Evidence: http://www.oy-reg.dk...eder/l18574.jpg



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Posted 14.08.2017 - 14:42

 

That aircraft is used for health and medical mission, not schedule PAX flights

 

It's also stated on Air Greenland web 'Super King Air - on a permanent mission for the Greenlandic health service'.

 

https://www.airgreen.../super-king-air


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Posted 14.08.2017 - 15:41

Yeah, I mean if you'd like to find reasons against I'm pretty sure you'll find as many as you'd find to get it into service...
How the PC12 got in here... ( frankly speaking I didn't checked out the www)

Anyway, please check out the link and you'll see that BE-100/350 is on scheduled pax service

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https://www.airinuit...flight-schedule

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Posted 15.08.2017 - 02:23

Pc-12 has been used in in scheduled service by
Bearskin Airlines
SeaPort Air
And a few others
Bearskin flew them for quite a while on scheduled flights from Buttonville airport to Ottawa
SeaPort was/is? Using them between Seattle and Portland
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#8 Eireann

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Posted 15.08.2017 - 03:47

A quick google search shows the following airlines as having regualar services with the beech King air

 

Air Creebec Air Nunavut Air Tindi Air Tropiques Aklak Air Atlantique Air Assistance Bering Air Exact Air Gestair Island Airlines Kivalliq Air Lyddair National Airways North Cariboo Air OceanAir Pacific Coastal Airlines Safari Plus Searca Colombia Sudan Airways Sunwest Aviation TAG Airlines Transwest Air Tyrolean Jet Services Waltair Europe

Ive googled a handful of them and they do have king air's in their fleets.



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Posted 15.08.2017 - 04:28

Yeah, I mean if you'd like to find reasons against I'm pretty sure you'll find as many as you'd find to get it into service...
 

Not trying to against you, but if you are showing it as an example, i think it would be proper to make sure at least it is the case. I won't say anything if you put the Inuit Flight as an example. 


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Posted 15.08.2017 - 09:51

Not trying to against you, but if you are showing it as an example, i think it would be proper to make sure at least it is the case. I won't say anything if you put the Inuit Flight as an example.


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Posted 15.08.2017 - 11:46

https://www.airlines...air_Europe.htmloffers medical services and business charter. Just an example and picked out of the list provided by Eireann.
Planes which are incorporated in the game are flying regularly and not on Business charter base. (However, I have not checked all these airlines in the list - but 5 of them don't offer regular flame flights).

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Posted 15.08.2017 - 11:56

https://www.airlines...air_Europe.htmloffers medical services and business charter. Just an example and picked out of the list provided by Eireann.
Planes which are incorporated in the game are flying regularly and not on Business charter base. (However, I have not checked all these airlines in the list - but 5 of them don't offer regular flame flights).


Hi, my above link from AirInuit proofs that B100/350 is on regular scheduled flight. Following that I'd love to see them then inside of AS

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Posted 15.08.2017 - 12:20

Right. Did not look into your link, sorry.

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Posted 15.08.2017 - 12:29

Right. Did not look into your link, sorry.


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Posted 15.08.2017 - 14:03

What would be the benefit having these planes in the game?

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Posted 15.08.2017 - 14:30

I can tell you that Pacific Coastal does not use them in scheduled service. I'm quite familiar with this airline.
While it might be interesting to see other small planes in the game, Cessna 402s as an example, maybe some Pipers. The fact is that small aircraft just aren't that profitable. Add the anti slot blocking requirements and I'm not sure I care about them. Id rather see the Caravan on floats so we could use Seaplane airports myself.

Edited by Tal0n, 15.08.2017 - 14:32.

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Posted 15.08.2017 - 14:49

What would be the benefit having these planes in the game?

Getting closer to reality and to serve remote airstrips around the world.
It will distress bigger airports by givin players a chance to build up something like a commuter airline with hubs as side of big airfields. PC12 is not really costfriendly while BC is (except the 90series)...

I mean you can ban them from 10 or 9 PAX rates airports if you'd like in order to prevent slot blocking.

Edited by N19840214, 15.08.2017 - 14:53.


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Posted 15.08.2017 - 20:06

Is a Beachcraft better in anything than other, already implemented small props? Just curious...

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Posted 15.08.2017 - 20:56

Is a Beachcraft better in anything than other, already implemented small props? Just curious...


The KA 200/350 can seat up to 16 ( excluding flight deck) which is closing the gap between the PC12's/B1900 and ATR/Dash's. At the same time the cruising speed of 275/290 kts is competitive to Dash's/ATR's. Distances of 1,200miles can be archived just as easily. It King Air comes with very low maintenance/fuel costs and will be perfect for remote airstrips. Noice and cabin height are really amazing (much quieter than any other turboprop aircraft). It'll be a good add-on/replacement/alternative for the B1900. Take off and landing performance are perfect for short RWY's.

Edited by N19840214, 15.08.2017 - 20:58.





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