Britten Norman Islander needs some LOVE!!!

The Islander is desperately needing some love in the game...

Being the only alternative to the Pilatus in the 9-seater category in the game, the viability of the Islander is severely hampered by the fact that it needs 2 pilots in the game. However, it seemed that the plane is actually certified for single pilot operations and have been used by various airlines under such condition. Below are some information I found online regarding the pilot staffing requirements for the Islander.

It would be great to have this as a possible alternative to serve small airports without having to use a (much more) expensive Pilatus.

https://www.loganair.co.uk/our-fleet-aircraft/#1532010859405-712b990d-0209

https://www.planeandpilotmag.com/article/pilatus-britten-norman-islander/#.W2B_UNgzZhB

https://transguyana.net/fleet/britten-norman-islander/

Actually, I was thinking the same thing.

it depends on local regulations, though.

the FAA, for instance, requires two pilots on all commercial flights.

EASA land used to depend if there was autopilot installed

A lot of other aircraft can be also operated under single pilots: PC12, DHC6, etc. None of them are single pilots operated currently in AS. i think unless AS change the structure so that you have different amount of pilots required in different countries, probably you will keep having two pilots due to the regulations issues. 

Another article from Flight Global on single-pilot operations with the Islander

The Islander will be cleared for single-pilot operation; the second flying control wheel is optional

https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1965/1965%20-%201930.PDF

A lot of other aircraft can be also operated under single pilots: PC12, DHC6, etc. None of them are single pilots operated currently in AS. i think unless AS change the structure so that you have different amount of pilots required in different countries, probably you will keep having two pilots due to the regulations issues. 

I agree to what you said mostly, except PC-12 is in fact single pilot in AS :excl:

it depends on local regulations, though.

the FAA, for instance, requires two pilots on all commercial flights.

You are right. Local regulations may stipulate that having two pilots is necessary for commercial flights in a particular jurisdiction.

However, at least for FAA and the US, most 9-seaters are operated under Part 135 (which includes commuter flights, where single-pilot operations is allowed) instead of Part 121 (scheduled flights with more than 10 seats, single pilot operations not allowed)

Source:

http://aviationweek.com/awin/faa-clears-pc-12-starship-single-pilot-part-135-operations (on the possibility of having a single-pilot operation under Part 135)

http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=765545 (On the possibility of having 9-seaters operating under Part 135)

https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/atos/135_certification/general_info/ (ditto)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/110.2 (Definition of 'commuter operations' - scheduled operations with no less than 5 round trips per week)

You are right. Local regulations may stipulate that having two pilots is necessary for commercial flights in a particular jurisdiction.

However, at least for FAA and the US, most 9-seaters are operated under Part 135 (which includes commuter flights, where single-pilot operations is allowed) instead of Part 121 (scheduled flights with more than 10 seats, single pilot operations not allowed)

Source:

http://aviationweek.com/awin/faa-clears-pc-12-starship-single-pilot-part-135-operations (on the possibility of having a single-pilot operation under Part 135)

http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=765545 (On the possibility of having 9-seaters operating under Part 135)

https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/atos/135_certification/general_info/ (ditto)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/110.2 (Definition of 'commuter operations' - scheduled operations with no less than 5 round trips per week)

actually when you click into the single pilot application document (8900.1 CHG 386, 2-460), there are some requirements:

•    No more than five pilots, including SICs, are used in the operation;
•    No more than five aircraft are used in the operation;
•    No more than three different types of aircraft are used in the operation;
•    No aircraft type certificated for more than nine passenger seats is used in the operation;
•    No Category II (CAT II) or Category III (CAT III) operations are conducted; and
•    No operations are conducted outside the United States, Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean (which includes the Bahamas).
 
The first three requirements might be an issue for airlines in AS. I don't think too many airlines are running that small... so i guess you might need 2 pilots even for PC12 in AS

... if you operate them under the authority of the FAA which you in e.g. Africa do not.

I agree that as a general rule, single-pilot operations are not allowed. However, there are possibilities in which planes can be operated with only one pilots and such exception are applicable to both PC-12, Islander and Cessna 208 as well. 

In the game, both PC-12 and Cessna are operating with one pilot only.

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However, the Islander is stuck with 2

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If the game acknowledges the possibility of single pilot operations with PC-12 and Cessna 208, I think the game should also allow single-pilot operations for the Islander :wub:

I think it should work on worse case scenario, as individual licensing authority is not plausible, so 2.

Just to bump this thread and hope the management will see this and improve the viability of small commuter airlines. :grinning:

and not forgetting the Tecnam P2012 which has been in service with Cape Air for nearly a year.