I agree that a good organisation is a great thing but whenever I try to do it I almost always forget some plane (for example when upgrading/downgrading) and for operations control. Therefore I have the planes organised per type (A320 Family, A320 long haul, A350 long haul, A350/A380 short haul) and for every hub. Sadly this leads to having hundreds of aircraft in some fleets. I also keep a pool of "Unused" planes which is for planes without schedules waiting to get schedules or get returned to lessors. Putting unused planes into specific fleets will almost certainly make me forget them.
Well, you could have contributed more instead of just being chatty about on the forums.
Just my two cents.
I truly love this game and do not regret the 4 years spent playing it, I by far love Airlinesim more than any other game I have ever played. I belive the developer has done a fantastic job making this game. I was asked a question and I honestly answers with my opinion. Through my answer nothing negative is expressed about the game but rather negativity of the neglect of the game. I belive the volunteer team are fantastic people and do the absolutely best they could with managing and improving things. With that said I do not belive it to be fully reasonable to have a for profit company run mostly by paying volunteers with little interest of the actual profiter. I agree that I have been inactive from team duties during this year (as I said in my original post). But you can neither deny the fact that no new feature has been added to the testing version of the game for over a year.
Cheers Joao, yeah those where great times. Sorry for forgetting to mention you (changed now ).
I have been privately asked "What specifically are my issues with the game?" by a couple different players and friends. I think it is suiting to tell you all.
The main issue is that there are no updates, nothing new happening and a very bland interest in the game from the point of view of the developers. Personally I want challenge and I feel like I know this game too much to challenge me and there is never anything changing to add challenges. Being part of the Testing Team meant that I got to see and play around with all the latest stuff but the problem was that there was nothing new to play around with. Considering that AS is a subscription service I as a consumer wanted new things.
What further moved me away was that there has not been a new permanent game world in over 3 years. The only game worlds coming are temporary and lately they have taken the game a great step backwards. Having to pay more for a world without the stock market saddened me and the fact that the only way to get the latest features meant paying more for less and having all your work deleted regardless if you want it or not. Regarding the stock market I understand that it takes more time to manage but that is why there is such a great team of UAB and team. As there is no other way to transfer airlines or get investment I belive that it is a crucial feature to the game. Simply, without it a big part of the fun and collaboration is lost. Would it not have been a subscription service I wouldn't have complained about the neglect but because it is I have no other choice. In a way it is like paying for Netflix but not getting any new content. The content you have is great but ultimately you will have seen it all.
@banff Thanks a lot. You will have to talk to Ron ones I return it to him, it isn't my decision.
The time has finally come for me to say Goodbye! For the last four years I have enjoyed every moment of this great game but my need to focus my time on other things has meant sadly I have been fairly inactive. I realised my inactivity when I got kicked out of teams for exactly that reason. In other words I am simply not enjoying AS anymore.
All I can say is that it has been a great time. I have tried to bring more happiness and joy to this community by many times moving out of the “boring business attitude” to a joyful warm and cuddly style. I have learned a lot from this game and from the community. I have loved writing every post in my airline news topics containing everything from environmental campaigns to cheesy movie reviews. Everyone here has been great. Even Ufsatp’s hate for me has greatly amused me at times. I would especially want to thank George, Leo, Jens, Ian, Ron, Lucian, Sven, James, Arne, Norman, Pedro, Joao, THX and Airlineista (forgot your names sorry) for bringing me joy and some of you for helping me out with this game. I am very sorry if I forgot anyone. Also thank you to everyone who trusted me for UAB.
I would also like to thank Martin for creating and still running this fantastic game. @martin Please give the game more attention and respect your team more. Atleast let them play for free, more as a gesture for what they are putting in than anything else. It's very hard representing something when you are a customer. The team are the crutches still keeping this game upright.
My operations on Stapleton will slowly go away with American and Tianjin Sky probably being returned to their owners and IndoSky probably fading away, though I am not at that stage of letting go yet.
If anyone want to keep in touch add Christianpals on Snap or email me at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Thank you and love you all <3,
P.S Let's end it off with the sad song that the title is named after
Yeah, I currently operate over 100 A380s on short haul routes (others operate big planes on short routes but nobody is as mad as me). I use them mainly to connect to high density waves as otherwise I wouldn't be able to fill them with mostly direct pax. While using a lot of smaller money making A321NEOs to carry the direct pax on out of wave times freeing up the A380s for connections. A nice feature for them game would be to choose where direct pax should be allowed. @martin Could we finally see something new?
I have them configured with a lot of business, either 63 or 81 C seats. Each flight makes a profit margin of about 20% to 30% when 80% full. They aren't money makers but they allow me to increase capacity to connect to other thinner short haul and long haul routes thereby making money on those legs. I agree that the turnaround time is long and I can only get 2 or 3 rotations per day per plane. With 8000s daily seats I would start trying something bigger but I wouldn't go A380 size considering that you are not dominant on the route. A380s mostly work when you are dominating or even having Monopoly. In your case i would rather go with 787-8 as the have short turnaround times and make good money.
I have lost 10 A380s which where completely full at extremely slot tight airport cancelled by the lessor. They were in nowhere excessively cheap and they were from one of the largest companies on the world. This cost me million in lost loads across the network plus the extremely expensive seats on those planes and the fact that i count recover most of those slots.
Nowadays I only have close friends as leassors as I simply don't trust others. I suggest you also built relationships with your lessors. You won't just get cheap leases but you will also develop trust in each other. For a lessor there is nothing better than a trustworthy leese and for a lessee there is nothing better than a trustworthy lessor.
Regarding competition: With the right pattern and profile, you can compete with everybody.
Or dont compete at all, be friends instead. Our collaboration in China helps everyone as does my collaborations in the US. Previously I was also for competition and no IL and no alliance partner to IL with competitors and all that rubbish but ultimately AS is a game and we are here to have fun and make friends. Some people just take this game too seriously and competitor hostilities can be worse than in the real world.
@highscore Ones upon a time when we were competitors both of us where very hostile towards each other and it was so wrong. We should have had IL instead. I am so sorry for that.
You have less equity than what you have started with. If you are profitable you should be able to build back that amount. Though it means that you have been loosing some money somewhere that aren't investments (seats, leasing deposits, etc) as they are still calculated as equity. As you are profitable I wouldn't worry.
As a beginner I generally suggest to try to avoid competition as much as possible but dont be scared by it. You will always have competition on connections anyways. I have previously mentored players who where so scared on competition that they didn't dare to start in a place where there where 1000 departures by someone who didn't know what he was doing. You just need some relative peace to try to develop a model. When you have done that you can come to EU, US and China and be like "Whatup" and just own the place.
Personally, my first carrier was in Sweden and even though there fairly was any competition in the big places I was so scared of competition that I flew around LETs and Saabs between two bar airports just to avoid the slightest competition. Thankfully my fantastic mentor (you know who you are) told me to stop this prop rubbish and get some jets and attack the core routes by offering a better product. I was like "No, I have tried those routes with Saabs and it failed, how will I fill A320s on those routes?" and he was like "There is competition but as long as your product is good you will fill your planes". I got an A318 and to my surprise it was completely full, it was also fairly profitable. Later on I upgraded to an A321 and to my surprise it was also doing good between high competition routes such as ARN-OSL and ARN-CPH. After wards my second fantastic mentor (you also know who you are) told me that "Ok now you have a good competitive product but you also need to make money". This got me thinking of actually developing my golden formula (which I didn't steal from others like some people). I choose a type of seat and went out to experiment to find the max price point to keep a 99 ORS, this is when I realised that Rubio and I use the same formula. After having a proven formula I found an opportunity in Malaysia and went straight into the cut throat competition and due to my superior ORS and fantastic profitability I was able to monopolise the market during some the worst AGEX. Dont know why I wrote this but just tried to tell my story, it might help.
I disagree that you aren't ready for some serious competition, just that I wouldn't use your seats. I would suggest you give the cut throat markets a try, you seem to do great in Turkey so it cant be much worse? Just make sure to have partners, partners are everything. Even your biggest competitor could be a great partner. Personally I partner with ALL competition in China and my biggest competitors in US, it greatly helps all of us. It isn't worth it to try to do everything yourself, just egoistic.
I will simply review your four starter Criteria as I dont have the time to write anything longer, but I am sure some better supporter will.
+ No competition for domestic flights. Seriously, is this what you are looking for? Sure this might be a must in some small demand places but others you will never get away from competition. If you are looking for no competition at all you will barely find an suitable existing place. Even if you find one domestic route without competition you will still need to compete on others to get the feed to fill that one route. I know most people say in tutorials to start small and stuff but you will never be able to have an airline on a larger scale in small places. Sure it is important to learn the game somewhere calm but to really get big you need to fight in China, US, Europe, etc, and it will be impossible to avoid competition in these places. Also when you have a good strategy with good ORS you can compete with how many other airlines you possibly want and still get the passagers. I for example penetrated the headquarters of the biggest airline on Stapleton and surprisingly I am able to get good loads only because of my perfect ORS.
+ Not part of any treaty. Again, I am not really for playing a monopoly because it gets me bored. Also being part of a treaty (EU) means that you have the whole continent to play with greatly broadening your reach. An airline in Turkey, Russia, Indonesia, Japan or Brazil can be very large but never match a large (10 million pax per week) EU, China or US carrier. China and US aren't treaties but they are still hypermarkets which is the same thing in my topic here.
+ Does not have unrestricted market access. This one is fairly obvious. You certainly dont want to start in one of these markets as you will always have bigger fish fighting you. If you really want to play in one of these markets then launch a holding elsewhere in a closed market and found a sub here. Launching a holding in an unrestricted market is pure stupidity.
+ Have at least a couple medium sized airport with demand etc. This is a great point, but is fairly hard to comply with the first point if thinking about this one. You just got to know that competition doesn't matter as long as you have slots. Neither is this a necessity if you are part of a treaty or never plan to be very large. You could for example run a fairly decent size carrier in Singapore although you will never be able to go huge due to the slot restraint. You could in the same way launch a carrier in China and never expand to a second hub.
To summarise as a newbie I would go to some small remote place to learn the game and then try to attack a hyper market. Although I would never really pay attention to any other point the third one.
200k profit is nothing and it will almost be impossible to grow with it. I suggest you work up that margin to atleast 30% which would give you 600k which is a reasonable amount to grow with. As you are in Cairo you need to make sure that you offer good ORS and just fly the trunk routes p2p which should be enough to generate a decent profit to grow a hub in Cairo. As these are p2p and you have 5 CRJ1000 I think you could make atleast 1 million per week which would greatly help you scale. When your p2p loads start dropping then go to build a hub. When I launch in fairly uncompleted market I always make sure to have a good source of cashflow before starting to build connections. This does not mean that a hub system wont pay off well, which it certainly can but it is just harder.
There's a great free game on alpha called The Airline Project. Receives constant updates.
The Airline Project does in no way compare to the level of realistic detail that AS has. As a paying customer I must agree the some updates would be nice, especially since AS is a subscription service.